Misinterpreting the prophecies of the Jewish right to return - Gog and Magog

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The Promised Land (also known as greater Israel) is the land that was given to Abraham and to all his decedents. This can be found in Genesis 15:18-21.

The Christian evangelists and Jewish converts (Gog and Magog descendants) use the below prophecy and others to justify the Jewish converts’ “return” to Palestine known as current day Israel. They see the below verse as a prophecy from Isaiah foretelling that God will gather them from across the world and send them back to Palestine. 279 But these prophecies have already been fulfilled over 2000 years ago.

“In that day the Lord will extend his hand yet a second time to recover the remnant which is left of his people, from Assyria, from Egypt, from Pathros, from Ethiopia, from Elam, from Shinar, from Hamath, and from the coastlands of the sea.” Isaiah 11:11 RSV
“He will raise a banner for the nations and gather the exiles of Israel; he will assemble the scattered people of Judah from the four quarters of the earth.”  Isaiah 11:12 NIV

Above is one of the prophecies that the Christian Evangelist and Jewish converts use to justify the creation of Israel in 1948. If above is the second return let’s look at the first return.

The First return to the Promised Land.

To find the first return to the Promised Land we would look for a verse that is similar to the Isaiah one at a time when the Jews were in exile (away from the Promised Land).
The below table shows the verses that state the Jews were in Egypt away from the Promised Land and their dating.

Jews Scattered In

Evidence

Egypt

1875 BC All the Jews lived settled in Egypt: Genesis 47:27, Exodus 1:6-7,12
1600 BC They were in captivity by the Egyptians and became slaves : Exodus 1:9-11,13-14

The below verses show when God brought them back to the Promised Land with similar wording to Isaiah 11:11 (i.e. “The Lord will extend his hand yet a second time)


"Therefore, say to the Israelites: 'I am the LORD, and I will bring you out from under the yoke of the Egyptians. I will free you from being slaves to them, and I will redeem you with an outstretched arm and with mighty acts of judgment.'" Exodus 6:6 NIV

“Then Moses said to the people, "Commemorate this day, the day you came out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery, because the LORD brought you out of it with a mighty hand. Eat nothing containing yeast.” Exodus 13:3 NIV 23868236_xxl_resize.jpg

The table below demonstrates some of the evidence that the exiled Jews returned back to the Promised Land (also known as Zion) when they were exiled in Egypt.


 

Return to Zion
Dates

Bible Proof

Snippets of verses

1446 BC

Exodus 13:18 KJV
 

"But God led the people about, through the way of the wilderness of the Red sea: and the children of Israel went up harnessed out of the land of Egypt."

1407 BC

Numbers 26:1-65 NIV

"These were the Israelites who came out of Egypt: The descendants of Reuben, the firstborn son of Israel, were: These were the clans of Reuben; those numbered were 43,730 ... These were the clans of Simeon; those numbered were 22,200... These were the clans of Gad; those numbered were 40,500... These were the clans of Judah; those numbered were 76,500...The descendants of Issachar by their clans were...through Tola, the Tolaite clan... ... ... The total number of the men of Israel was 601,730.

1406 BC

Deuteronomy 34:4 NIV

"Then the Lord said to him, 'This is the land I promised on oath to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob when I said, ‘I will give it to your descendants.’ I have let you see it with your eyes, but you will not cross over into it.'"

1406 BC

Joshua 1:2-3 NIV

“Moses my servant is dead. Now then, you and all these people, get ready to cross the Jordan River into the land I am about to give to them—to the Israelites."

"I will give you every place where you set your foot, as I promised Moses."

1406 BC

Joshua 1:10-11 RSV

"Then Joshua commanded the officers of the people," 

“'Pass through the camp, and command the people, ‘Prepare your provisions; for within three days you are to pass over this Jordan, to go in to take possession of the land which the Lord your God gives you to possess.’'"


The Second return to the Promised Land.

The verse Isaiah 11:11 tells you where God will recover the Jews (Israelites) from:
“… to recover the remnant which is left of his people, from Assyria, from Egypt, from Pathros, from Ethiopia, from Elam, from Shinar, from Hamath, and from the coastlands of the sea.”

The Old Testament and history tells us that the Jews (Israelites) were scattered in those places (mentioned in the above verse and the approximate dates) before the regathering happened.

Scattered Nations

Evidence

Cush  *

Moses married a Cushite  (Numbers 12:1)

Lower Egypt

588 BCE Babylon King Nebuchadnezzar besieged Jerusalem. 
Many Jews fled to Egypt in fear of the Babylonians (2 Kings 25:26)

Pathros (Upper Egypt)

588 BCE Babylon King Nebuchadnezzar besieged Jerusalem. 
Many Jews fled to Egypt in fear of the Babylonians (2 Kings 25:26)

Shinar (Babylonia)

588 BCE Babylon King Nebuchadnezzar besieged Jerusalem.
Many Jews were living in Babylon after. 280

Assyria

722 BCE Assyrian siege of Jerusalem
Jews were taken to Assyria (2 Kings 17:6)

Elam

722 B.C. Jews had been deported to Elam (Ezra 4:9) 281 282 283

Hamath

King Jeroboam recovered Hamath (2 Kings 14:28) which belonged to Judah 284

Coastlands of the sea 285

Jews would have been deported here286 or fled here during both sieges. 287

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Modern day evangelists believe this Cush (also called Ethiopia) is modern day Ethiopia. Webster’s Bible, Schofield’s Bible, Calmet’s Dictionary, Imperial Bible-Dictionary and many more state that this Cush is the land south of Egypt, also known as Cush/Ethiopia. Not modern-day Ethiopia. 288 289 288, 290 It would make more sense this Cush/Ethiopia is at the south of Egypt rather than over two countries down to modern day Ethiopia which modern evangelists claim. Scholar Charles Anthon states “the Cush mentioned by Moses are pointed out by him to be a nation of kindred origin with the Egyptians” 291

“He will raise a banner for the nations and gather the exiles of Israel; he will assemble the scattered people of Judah from the four quarters of the earth.”  Isaiah 11:12 NIV

Current day Evangelists claim the gathering from the four quarters of the earth relate to the worldwide gathering of convert (non-Israelite) Jews that came into Palestine in 1948. 292
Bible scholar J. F. Sawyer states that the four quarters of the earth are as follows:

Four Quarters

Countries/Nations 293

North

Hamath

East

Elam

South

Egypt

West

The coastlands

The above table of four quarters (where Jews were actually dispersed to) makes more sense than what the current day evangelists preach (i.e. the countries’ Jewish converts arrived from when they entered Palestine in 1948 being the four quarters).
A prophecy about a regathering that was fulfilled (537 BC - 445 BC) less than 200 years later compared to a regathering that was fulfilled over 2500 years later (1948, which compromised of mostly non-Israelite descendants i.e. converts) seems more plausible.
 
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Some of the Prophecies of the return and the dates the prophecies were received *

Deuteronomy 30:1--9

1406 BC

Amos 9:11-15

766 BC

Isaiah 11:11

730 BC

Ezekiel 20:41-42

591 BC

Ezekiel 37:21

591 BC

Jeremiah 23:7-8

588 BC

Jeremiah 29:10-14

588 BC

Zechariah 10:6-12

520 BC

 

* received means the date the prophecies were spoken by the prophets.

It is important to look at the dates of the prophecies received and the dates of the actual return. You will see the dates of the returns are all AFTER the prophecies, meaning the prophecies had all been fulfilled. The Jews returned back to Jerusalem in time for the coming of the Messiah (i.e. Jesus).

Return to Zion  294

Bible Proof

Snippet of Verses.

Sheshbazzar's Aliyah (537 BC)

Ezra 1:1-11 NIV

“This is what Cyrus king of Persia says: 'The Lord, the God of heaven, has given me all the kingdoms of the earth and he has appointed me to build a temple for him at Jerusalem in Judah. '3 Any of his people among you may go up to Jerusalem in Judah and build the temple of the Lord, the God of Israel, the God who is in Jerusalem, and may their God be with them'" … "Then the family heads of Judah and Benjamin, and the priests and Levites—everyone whose heart God had moved—prepared to go up and build the house of the Lord in Jerusalem."
“… In all, there were 5,400 articles of gold and of silver. Sheshbazzar brought all these along with the exiles when they came up from Babylon to Jerusalem.”

Zerubbabel's Aliyah  (537 BC)

Ezra 2:1-70 ESV

“Now these were the people of the province who came up out of the captivity of those exiles whom Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon had carried captive to Babylonia...

The number of the men of the people of Israel: the sons of Parosh, 2,172. The sons of Shephatiah, 372. The sons of Arah, 775. The sons of Pahath-moab, namely the sons of Jeshua and Joab, 2,812. The sons of Elam, 1,254. The sons of Zattu, 945. The sons of Zaccai, 760. The sons of Bani, 642. The sons of Bebai, 623. The sons of Azgad, 1,222... The sons of Bigvai, 2,056.  The sons of Adin, 454... The sons of Bezai, 323. The sons of Jorah, 112. The sons of Hashum, 223. The sons of Gibbar, 95.  The sons of Bethlehem, 123... The priests: the sons of Jedaiah, of the house of Jeshua, 973. The sons of Immer, 1,052. The sons of Pashhur, 1,247. The sons of Harim, 1,017... The temple servants: the sons of Ziha, the sons of Hasupha, the sons of Tabbaoth, the sons of Keros, the sons of Siaha, the sons of Padon…”

 

 

Return to Zion  294

Bible Proof

Snippet of Verses.

Zerubbabel's Aliyah  (537 BC)

Ezra 2:1-70 ESV

“…  the sons of Lebanah, the sons of Hagabah, the sons of Akkub,  the sons of Hagab, the sons of Shamlai, the sons of Hanan,  the sons of Giddel, the sons of Gahar, the sons of Reaiah, the sons of Rezin, the sons of Nekoda, the sons of Gazzam, the sons of Uzza, the sons of Paseah, the sons of Besai...All the temple servants and the sons of Solomon's servants were 392.

... The whole assembly together was 42,360,  besides their male and female servants, of whom there were 7,337, and they had 200 male and female singers.  Their horses were 736, their mules were 245,  their camels were 435, and their donkeys were 6,720.”

Ezra's Aliyah (458 BC)

Ezra 7:1-10 ESV

Ezra the son of Seraiah, son of Azariah, son of Hilkiah, son of Shallum, son of Zadok, son of Ahitub, son of Amariah, son of Azariah, son of Meraioth, son of Zerahiah, son of Uzzi, son of Bukki, son of Abishua, son of Phinehas, son of Eleazar, son of Aaron the chief priest—  this Ezra went up from Babylonia. He was a scribe skilled in the Law of Moses that the Lord, the God of Israel, had given, and the king granted him all that he asked, for the hand of the Lord his God was on him.

Nehemiah’s Aliyah (445 BC)

Nehemiah 2:1-20

“..If it pleases the king and if your servant has found favor in his sight, let him send me to the city in Judah where my ancestors are buried so that I can rebuild it…”

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Aliyah means any of the major waves of Jewish immigration to Palestine or Israel. 295
Zechariah 8:1-16 (520 BC) Zechariah was prophesying during the rebuilding of the temple, to encourage the Jews to finish building it. 296
The rebuilding of the second temple was finished in 515 BC. Ezra 6:15
All the approximate dates have been taken from BibleHub.com 297

The idea that the creation of the state of Israel in 1948 was a prophecy of the Jews returning to the Promised Land being fulfilled is a complete fabrication. Firstly, because the prophecies had already been fulfilled, secondly, the majority of Jews that did go to the Promised Land in 1948 are not the seed of Abraham but the seed of Gog and Magog and others.

 

 

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